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[0:02] MING: Well, good
afternoon, my friends.
[0:04] My name is Ming.
[0:05] I'm the Jolly Good Fellow
of Google for one more
[0:07] week, because next week
I'm retiring from Google.
[0:11] And this is the very last
guest I am hosting at Google,
[0:16] and very fittingly, it
is Professor Bob Thurman.
[0:21] Bob is a wonderful human being.
[0:25] Behind his back, we
call him Buddha Bob.
[0:28] He's sort of like--
I think he should
[0:30] be more like Bob the Buddha,
sort of like Bob the Builder,
[0:34] except with better karma.
[0:38] Bob the Buddha is considered
the leading American expert
[0:42] on Tibetan Buddhism.
[0:44] In 1962, Bob became
the first American
[0:48] to wear the robes of a
Tibetan Buddhist monk
[0:51] outside of Halloween.
[0:56] Eventually, he left his job,
and he became a professor
[1:00] at American University,
and right now, he
[1:04] is a Jey Tsong Khapa professor
of Indo-Tibetan Buddhist
[1:08] studies at Columbia University.
[1:12] He's also the president
of the Tibet House, which
[1:15] he founded with this guy called
Richard Gere, which you may
[1:18] or may have heard of, and
also Philip Glass, which you
[1:21] may or may not have heard of.
[1:22] He's also the president
of the American
[1:24] Institute of Buddhist Studies.
[1:26] He was see considered one of
25 most influential Americans
[1:31] in the 1997.
[1:33] And in 1998, he didn't
do anything after that.
[1:38] He has been profiled in "The
New York Times," in "People"
[1:41] magazine, in "Time," he has
appeared on CNN, "The News
[1:45] Hour," Larry King, Oprah.
[1:47] He is close personal
friends with the Dalai Lama.
[1:50] He knows all the dirt,
so ask him later.
[1:53] He's also the father
of Uma Thurman,
[1:55] so he knows the dirt as well.
[1:56] Ask him too.
[1:58] His hobbies are carpentry,
landscaping, and saving
[2:02] the world.
[2:05] He's here to talk
about his latest book,
[2:07] "Love Your Enemies."
[2:08] So now that I have this
book, all I need is enemies.
[2:14] My friends, please welcome
our dear friend, Bob Thurman.
[2:17] [APPLAUSE]
[2:21] ROBERT THURMAN:
Thank you so much.
[2:23] Thank you, Ming.
[2:24] So sweet.
[2:25] That was very sweet.
[2:27] I really enjoy your introducing
me more than talking.
[2:32] I'm sure.
[2:34] And just I'm doing this, or
my wife will be mad at me if I
[2:38] don't.
[2:43] So great.
[2:44] So hi, everybody.
[2:47] I was asked to
talk about ethics,
[2:49] and I just made a slide.
[2:52] I do have a lot of PowerPoint,
but for some reason,
[2:54] I didn't feel like
doing PowerPoint.
[2:55] So you probably get
PowerPoints all the time
[2:57] on engineering problems and
God knows what down here,
[3:01] so I didn't think I would
do that while I was here.
[3:04] But then I decided I
would make this one slide.
[3:07] And my talk takes
off from a book
[3:10] that His Holiness
the Dalai Lama wrote
[3:13] called "Beyond Religion--
Ethics for a Whole World."
[3:20] Have any of you ever seen
that book or read it?
[3:22] Ming has, I'm sure,
and a few people have.
[3:25] And what he does there is
because His Holiness has always
[3:33] been trying to
improve understanding
[3:35] between different kinds of
groups of people who identify
[3:37] themselves as different
from each other,
[3:41] and his main job there, one of
his three main jobs in life,
[3:45] as he puts it, is to improve
the mutual understanding
[3:48] of the world religions, because
there's been so much conflict
[3:52] in history between them.
[3:53] But one thing that he does
when he has meetings, world
[3:57] religious meetings,
he always a little bit
[3:59] flummoxes the other
world religious leaders
[4:03] by saying that there's
another world religion which
[4:06] is secularism, which are
nonbelievers, as he puts it.
[4:11] And he used to say-- I don't
know the statistical basis
[4:14] of him saying that.
[4:15] I never did ask him.
[4:16] He used to say, if there are
4 billion people who believe
[4:19] in some religion or another,
there are at least 1 billion
[4:23] or 1 and 1/2 billion who don't.
[4:25] That was a previous
earlier count, I guess.
[4:28] Now we're up to seven.
[4:29] So I don't know how
he does it just now.
[4:31] And they do have a belief,
and they have a belief
[4:36] of what lies beyond death.
[4:37] They have a belief,
and actually I
[4:40] think I can prove to anyone who
wants to debate it that that is
[4:44] a faith belief actually, rather
than an evidenced belief, which
[4:48] we can discuss.
[4:49] And so in that book,
which he originally
[4:53] wanted to title "Secular
Ethics," he wanted
[4:57] to show that there is a reason
and a motive for human beings
[5:02] to be ethical,
because it fulfills
[5:05] the aim of human beings,
which finally, of course,
[5:08] like all animals, the aim of
any animal is to avoid pain
[5:11] and to achieve happiness.
[5:14] Avoid suffering and
achieve happiness.
[5:15] That's sort of the
basic goal of everyone.
[5:18] Whatever other goals
they may set themselves,
[5:21] no one wants to suffer.
[5:22] No one wants pain.
[5:24] Everyone wants pleasure
and/or happiness,
[5:26] depending on how
they define them.
[5:29] And then there's
mental levels of pain
[5:31] and physical levels of pain.
[5:33] And so he wrote that
book, and in the book,
[5:37] basically, he used sort of
anthropological insights,
[5:42] pretty much, and some
biological, a little bit
[5:46] of biological thinking
of secularists
[5:49] or scientific
materialists to prove
[5:52] that the human being as a
mammal, as a being that when
[5:56] it's young is helpless for
many years, at least a decade,
[6:02] at least till the teenage
time, at which point
[6:05] the human being thinks
they're independent.
[6:07] But the parents don't.
[6:10] The parents think they need
help right up until they're
[6:13] parents themselves pretty much,
and sometimes even after that.
[6:16] Grandparents get sucked in on
babysitting and what have you.
[6:20] And I can attest to that.
[6:22] And so because of
that, human beings
[6:25] do depend on the kindness of
strangers, not only Mae West,
[6:28] but everybody.
[6:30] After all, the mammal
conceives a new life,
[6:35] the more intelligent half of the
mammals, that is-- the females.
[6:39] They allow a total
stranger to come
[6:41] and have a condo in their
belly, which is quite a thing.
[6:46] I think if guys think about
it, I think you'd be hesitant.
[6:51] I would.
[6:52] I don't know about you, but
suddenly, there's something
[6:55] down there, and it wants
a different kind of food,
[6:58] and it wants this and that,
and it kicks after awhile.
[7:01] And then it's a
real pain more than
[7:04] in the neck to get it
outside of yourself.
[7:06] And so that's all a bunch
of altruistic activity
[7:13] of the females, and the
males have to carry along.
[7:15] They have to end up helping,
so mammals' basic nature
[7:22] is what he's trying to say.
[7:23] Buddhists don't like
the idea of anything
[7:26] having an absolute nature.
[7:29] They have a wonderful
hermeneutic principle
[7:32] in Buddhist thought, in
Buddhist science, I should say,
[7:35] because in Buddhism,
philosophy and science are not
[7:38] necessarily separated so
dramatically as it has
[7:40] become in the West nowadays.
[7:44] But in Buddhist science,
there is a rule, a hermeneutic
[7:50] or a rule of interpretation.
[7:51] And that is that there is
only one kind of teaching that
[7:54] is considered
definitive in meaning,
[7:57] and that kind is the pure
negation of something of self,
[8:02] the negation of
substance, the negation
[8:04] of any sort of a relative
absolute, you could say.
[8:07] It's almost simplistic
and so simple, actually.
[8:11] The famous concept
of emptiness--
[8:13] we've all heard of
it-- selflessness--
[8:15] these are famous concepts.
[8:16] And what these mean, they don't
mean that things don't exist.
[8:19] Emptiness is not nothingness.
[8:21] Completely different word in
any of the Buddhist languages.
[8:24] And what emptiness means is
that all relative things are
[8:28] empty of any
non-relative element
[8:30] or what they would
call intrinsic reality,
[8:33] intrinsic identity, any
sort of thing like that,
[8:36] which is really almost like
it's a definition of the words.
[8:40] It's almost a tautological.
[8:41] If something's absolute, you
can't relate, because absolute
[8:45] is the opposite of relative.
[8:47] And so if anybody comes up
with some sort of an absolute
[8:50] and says it relates as some
monotheistic teachings do,
[8:54] as some versions of
Buddhism do, then they
[8:57] are simply misusing language,
to use a Wittgensteinian
[9:01] expression.
[9:02] And so His Holiness, therefore,
is very like a scientist,
[9:10] and great Buddhist
philosophers are
[9:12] like scientists in
that all teachings
[9:15] about relative
reality are relative.
[9:17] That is to say more or less
valid within a context.
[9:21] There is no absolute truth
about relative things,
[9:25] if you follow me, except that
none of them are absolute.
[9:30] That's the only one.
[9:31] That's really a logical thing.
[9:33] But why is that it?
[9:35] So it seems so simple like
why is that a big thing?
[9:37] The reason it's a big thing
is that the human bad habit,
[9:43] cognitive habit, emotional
habit, instinctual habit that
[9:47] causes all suffering for
human beings in Buddha's
[9:50] psychological and
philosophical analysis
[9:53] is the feeling that
we habitually have
[9:56] that we are absolute.
[9:58] The person has a feeling,
the unenlightened person
[10:00] has a feeling that the one thing
they are sure of-- for example,
[10:03] Descartes perfectly well
illustrates-- stop vibrating--
[10:09] perfectly illustrated
that when he decided
[10:13] that the one thing he
was absolutely sure of
[10:16] was that he was worrying
about what was absolute.
[10:20] In other words, he was thinking.
[10:22] That's the famous thing.
[10:23] He didn't need
Buddhism for that.
[10:25] And everyone subconsciously or
subliminally or instinctively
[10:29] feels something about themself
is absolute, and therefore,
[10:33] when pressed in a corner
of a life and death
[10:36] thing, like my life is
the one absolute for me
[10:40] type of thing people feel
that, which, of course,
[10:43] from Buddha's point
of view is erroneous.
[10:45] His teaching of selflessness
means that that's an error.
[10:48] That doesn't mean
that I don't exist.
[10:50] It means that I am a relational
being, not an absolute being.
[10:53] That means that other beings
are equally as real and as
[10:57] important as I am, and that
little shift of not being
[11:00] the absolute center
of it all yourself,
[11:02] of coming to this
viscerally understand
[11:04] that, first intellectually
and philosophically understand
[11:07] that, and then viscerally
understand it--
[11:09] that's the whole campaign
of Buddhist teaching.
[11:12] Because once you do
really understand--
[11:15] like I had an old
Mongolian guru who
[11:18] had a couple of great sayings--
passed away a long time ago,
[11:21] but one of his
great sayings was,
[11:23] everyone goes around--
this was three or four
[11:25] decades before "The Matrix."
[11:27] He said, everyone goes around
secretly thinking, I'm the one.
[11:34] Therefore, I nearly fainted
when they started on
[11:36] that in "The Matrix," going to
see the oracle, who's the one,
[11:39] you know.
[11:40] So everybody secretly
thinks, I'm the one.
[11:43] And then the second
one is, people are not
[11:46] wrong to say that they are real.
[11:49] The problem is people
think they're really real.
[11:53] So all it is.
[11:55] A lot of people misunderstand
Buddhism and think
[11:57] that the big insight is
that you don't exist,
[11:59] and then you're free,
and everything is cool.
[12:01] And actually, there are
certain modern Buddhists
[12:03] who think that scientific
materialism ratifies that
[12:08] by discovering that
you're just a brain
[12:10] bouncing around
inside a skull box
[12:13] and running around until
the brain gets tired,
[12:16] and you have a stroke or
collapse or something,
[12:18] and then you don't
exist anymore.
[12:20] So in a way, essentially,
you don't exist.
[12:22] You're just a robot
that is deluded
[12:24] into thinking you exist, as
long as your heart is pumping,
[12:27] and your brain is registering
and convincing you
[12:30] that you're there, but
you're not really there,
[12:33] because if you just
squash your brain,
[12:35] you simply cease to exist.
[12:36] So that's what Buddha was saying
in selflessness and emptiness,
[12:41] and even some translators
used to translate emptiness
[12:43] as nothingness, which
is just completely very
[12:47] bad, because Buddha is
very clear that emptiness
[12:50] as a sort of ultimate
cosmological principle
[12:53] or something like that is
a middle way, a central way
[12:57] between nihilism,
nothingness, and absolutism,
[13:01] making some sort of
absolute out of something.
[13:04] Emptiness is therefore really
what it truly is is relativism,
[13:08] and Buddha really is the
discovery of relativity.
[13:11] And therefore, ethics was a
central thing for Buddhism,
[13:15] because ethics operates on
all levels-- physical, not
[13:20] just physical, not just
verbal, but also mental.
[13:27] Well, Jimmy Carter knew that.
[13:28] Remember, Jimmy-- most
of you are too young.
[13:31] Somebody remember Jimmy Carter
wrote in "Esquire" magazine
[13:33] how he sinned in his mind.
[13:35] He lusted after some
young thing or something.
[13:38] And I don't know how
Rosalynn took that,
[13:40] but the Buddhists say you
can do that in your mind.
[13:45] In other words, you can commit
a negative ethical act just
[13:47] with your mind, even
if you don't act on it.
[13:50] And that's one of
the reasons Buddhists
[13:52] are so much into searching
inside themselves.
[13:59] I have to say it with the
right emphasis in this room.
[14:05] So it's a very big deal.
[14:06] Ethics is a very big deal.
[14:07] Now the problem-- so then His
Holiness does that in his book
[14:12] by talking about what human
life is like and the fact
[14:16] that we do love-- are
happy when we love someone,
[14:20] not only when we're loved,
but also when we do love,
[14:23] we become very, very happy.
[14:24] You know, Gene Kelly dancing
in the rain, what have you.
[14:27] And he has two pillars, he
said, of his secular ethics.
[14:32] And one of them is
human nature, the nature
[14:36] of the human as a
social animal, which
[14:38] he takes from a certain
side in anthropology,
[14:40] although he cites many studies.
[14:43] There are more and more
studies that-- actually,
[14:45] in the famous argument between
Ashley Montagu and Konrad
[14:49] Lorenz historically in the
history of anthropology,
[14:53] there are many more things
supporting Ashley Montagu
[14:55] that humans are really
basically gentle.
[14:58] They're basically kind.
[15:01] But they can become vicious,
worse than any animal,
[15:04] because the nature
of the human being
[15:06] is so completely programmable,
deprogrammable, reprogrammable,
[15:11] which is why education is
so critically important.
[15:14] Anyway, basically among animals,
the human is a more gentle one.
[15:19] We don't have claws.
[15:20] We don't have fangs.
[15:21] We don't have armored skin.
[15:24] We're soft-skinned and so forth.
[15:26] And the young take
existence inside the bodies
[15:29] of the female, which
is more of a connection
[15:34] to the next generation
than if you just
[15:36] drop an egg somewhere in the
riverbank or by the ocean
[15:40] and wait for the little
turtle to crawl out.
[15:42] There's a little less
parenting involved
[15:44] when you do it with eggs.
[15:46] So he uses that.
[15:49] And then the second one is the
relationality of everything
[15:51] and that everyone
is very interrelated
[15:53] and that people
are never happier
[15:55] than when they do something
successfully for someone else,
[15:58] and they feel really good about
that like seeing that person
[16:01] smile, seeing that child happy.
[16:03] They really do,
and then that leads
[16:05] to his slogan about
compassion that he does,
[16:08] where he says that if you
want someone else to be happy,
[16:13] be compassionate to them.
[16:15] And he says if you
want to be happy, be
[16:17] compassionate to
someone else, which
[16:20] is his favorite slogan
coming from the tradition
[16:23] of Shantideva, a great, great
Indian philosopher and sage
[16:27] and yogi call Shantideva,
who wrote a great book called
[16:30] "Way of the Bodhisattva"
that I recommend to everyone.
[16:33] It's one of the great world
classics of spirituality,
[16:35] actually, in which he makes the
argument very, very thoroughly
[16:40] that our nature
is such that when
[16:42] we do something for
someone else that succeeds,
[16:48] it is its own reward.
[16:49] And they may even make the very
clever psychological argument
[16:52] that when you focus on doing
things for others, then
[16:57] actually, you temporarily forget
about what you need yourself.
[17:01] You tend to.
[17:02] And then that's a
key to happiness,
[17:05] because the one certain
way to be unhappy
[17:08] is to think, how happy am I?
[17:11] That's an immediate killer.
[17:13] The minute you think,
how good is it?
[17:15] What am I getting out of here?
[17:17] What's going on?
[17:18] It's like, oh, no,
it's not that good.
[17:23] Whatever marvelous
experience it is
[17:25] when you turn to evaluate
it, you're never satisfied.
[17:29] The Rolling Stones have
a song like that, right?
[17:31] Ain't no satisfaction.
[17:34] So that's His Holiness's
thing on secularism,
[17:37] which is a beautiful
book, and it
[17:40] has trainings in the back,
which is another novel
[17:43] concept to Western
psychologists, which
[17:47] is that you can
train yourself to be
[17:49] more compassionate
and more loving,
[17:51] that it isn't that a
person is just loving.
[17:53] Of course, there's a
set point that Buddhists
[17:55] would agree from
one's upbringing
[17:57] if one is traumatically
brought up,
[17:59] it's maybe difficult to
feel it's natural to be nice
[18:04] and to be loving if you've been
guarding and defending yourself
[18:07] against abuse as a child.
[18:09] But basically, whatever
level of lovingness one
[18:14] is or has as a person can be
much more highly developed.
[18:17] And the negative side, the
opposite of loving-- hating,
[18:21] despising, et cetera-- can
be diminished by training.
[18:26] And that's very important.
[18:28] Should be a part of
everyone's education.
[18:30] It actually is the final purpose
of the Search Inside Yourself
[18:35] strategy, because once
you search in there,
[18:39] you find the negative
reflexes and mechanisms that
[18:42] have caused you trouble in
life, or you lost friends
[18:45] where you annoyed and
offended people, where
[18:47] this and that happened, where
you were dissatisfied also
[18:49] yourself, and then
you can deconstruct,
[18:53] and you can disempower those
negative mental habits,
[18:56] and you can reinforce and
empower the positive ones
[18:59] to a huge degree.
[19:00] And Buddhists would not agree
with those modern psychologists
[19:04] who keep insisting and
write all best-seller books
[19:06] about how helpless you are,
that your unconscious is doing
[19:10] everything, and you really
can't really-- what you
[19:12] think is a free choice is not.
[19:14] And Buddhists don't agree.
[19:16] They do agree that a very
unenlightened person is
[19:18] pretty much robotic in their
reactivity and their reaction
[19:21] patterns, but the
whole path of Buddhism
[19:26] is to become conscious of
your unconscious actually
[19:28] and to reshape it.
[19:30] It's like the Hercules myth
of cleaning the Augean stables
[19:33] is very perfect for the
Buddhist enterprise,
[19:37] because the human being
in Buddha's analysis,
[19:40] the reason it is such
a valuable life form,
[19:43] and that every one
of you has what
[19:46] they call in Buddhism
the precious jewel
[19:49] of a life endowed with
liberty and opportunity.
[19:52] And the liberty has
to do with the fact
[19:56] that you are free of
many kinds of defects.
[19:59] You're not born
in a species that
[20:01] has no language, that has
no culture, that can't share
[20:05] the mind of others
because of having speech
[20:07] and so forth,
literature, in our case,
[20:10] and memory, and a certain
type of self-reflexiveness
[20:13] is not available to lower animal
forms in the human animal form.
[20:17] And some humans, of course,
are less than others.
[20:21] And so they're not all the same.
[20:22] So the liberties are like
that, and the opportunities
[20:24] are where you can
educate yourself,
[20:27] because if a human being, if
a saint, or a near saint--
[20:30] actually, in Buddha's view,
a complete saint can never
[20:32] become a murderer,
a perfect saint,
[20:36] but there are degrees of really
niceness and sainthood that
[20:39] could become very evil by
different circumstances
[20:44] and reindoctrination.
[20:46] And similarly, even the Buddha
had one famous disciple,
[20:49] Angulimala, who
was a serial killer
[20:52] and became a saint,
complete saint actually
[20:54] in his lifetime by
changing his behavior
[20:57] and so forth, and then went to
some of the families of some
[21:00] of the people he had killed.
[21:01] And he actually
was so genuinely--
[21:04] he offered his life
to them anyway,
[21:07] if that would have helped.
[21:08] And they actually
didn't take his life
[21:10] when they realized he really
had totally changed, actually.
[21:13] Anyway, that's the Buddha's
analysis of the human being.
[21:15] So I presume, do all of what
is the fourfold for the four
[21:22] noble truths?
[21:23] Everybody know
that in this room?
[21:26] Anybody doesn't know
that, Buddha's sort
[21:28] of original teaching?
[21:29] A few people.
[21:30] Well, I can quickly summarize.
[21:31] It's important to do,
because the people always
[21:34] think, especially new people,
that Buddha's main job was
[21:38] making a religion.
[21:40] Now I'm going back from
Dalai Lama to Buddha,
[21:42] because Buddha did the same
thing as Dalai Lama did
[21:44] in the sense that he grounded
his version of ethics
[21:49] in what would be considered
scientific reality of that time
[21:53] and actually may well still be
considered scientific reality.
[21:56] But I'm not going to get
into that necessarily,
[21:59] unless we go into a question
period, and you want me to.
[22:04] So in other words, what
His Holiness Dalai Lama is
[22:06] doing is same thing Buddha did.
[22:08] His Holiness is
doing it in terms
[22:09] of secular science or
materialist science
[22:11] today, which is the orthodoxy.
[22:14] It's not the dogmatic
orthodoxy among scientists
[22:17] today, scientific
materialism, and in his day,
[22:20] Buddha did that as well.
[22:21] Shakyamuni Buddha
did that as well,
[22:25] which is the basis
of Buddhist ethics,
[22:27] and that's what I
want to talk about it.
[22:28] Anyway, the four noble
truths, his first Noble Truth
[22:31] was that the unenlightened
person is bound to suffer.
[22:36] It's not really a
religious thing.
[22:38] It's a scientific and
psychological analysis
[22:42] of the human condition, and
and also of animals, actually,
[22:47] as well, at a worse
level than the human.
[22:51] But what it means
is that someone
[22:55] who has a false sense
of what they are,
[23:00] and this is especially
defined as it exaggerates
[23:05] their identity, thinking that
that's an absolute thing,
[23:09] and they are
absolutely themselves,
[23:11] and the rest of the universe is
absolutely different from them.
[23:15] That person in that condition,
and that's at a visceral level.
[23:19] They may not even have
that as a philosophy,
[23:21] but that's at a visceral level.
[23:22] That person is doomed to suffer,
because obviously, if it's
[23:27] you versus the universe, you're
going to lose that struggle.
[23:31] No one can overdo it.
[23:33] And then the theisms, the
different forms of theism
[23:36] tend to console us for that
losing experience of living
[23:40] life unto death, and with being
sick and growing old and having
[23:44] all kinds of things
happen to us,
[23:46] and having the pleasures and
joys that we have not last.
[23:50] But we're consoled that there
is an absolute being outside
[23:53] of the universe that somehow
put us in this situation,
[23:56] and as long as we pay
dues to that being
[23:58] and believe in it, that
being will save us.
[24:01] And then we'll have
bliss after death.
[24:04] But that's just
sort of transferring
[24:06] the locus of that absolute
thing into something
[24:09] that is just presumed to
be outside the universe.
[24:12] The person who
doesn't do that, they
[24:14] think that there's an essential
soul in themselves that's
[24:17] a fixed identity that is somehow
disconnected from everything,
[24:22] and they try to
withdraw and retreat
[24:24] into that in various ways.
[24:27] And actually, the
motor materialist
[24:29] thinks so too, surprisingly.
[24:31] They may think they
don't, but they actually
[24:33] do, because since they are
certain that by their brain
[24:37] ceasing, they will become
unconscious permanently,
[24:40] and their mind will
cease to exist forever,
[24:44] including having no memory
of ever having existed,
[24:47] they are saying that they
carry within them an essence
[24:50] of nothingness, actually.
[24:52] That's sort of the
existential thing.
[24:53] So like Jean Paul
Belmondo in Pierrot le Fou
[24:57] can light his cigar
and then light
[24:59] the fuse of some dynamite
sticks wrapped around his head,
[25:03] and then the screen goes white.
[25:05] And that's the idea that
they're reducing themselves
[25:07] to their essence, which is
anesthetic unconsciousness.
[25:11] And yet, there is no evidence
that you're ever going to have
[25:13] anaesthetic no
consciousness, and in fact,
[25:16] if anybody wants to debate the
point with me who considers
[25:19] themself a secularist, I
will be delighted to do
[25:22] so, because there is no evidence
that you will not exist at some
[25:27] point.
[25:29] There can never be, right?
[25:30] If it ever happened to anybody,
nobody ever found them,
[25:34] and they never reported back.
[25:35] I always tease my materialist
friends, didn't Carl Sagan
[25:39] show up after his death and
announce, it's cool guys.
[25:44] I really don't exist.
[25:46] So don't worry about
those churches.
[25:49] Don't worry about
that reincarnation,
[25:51] because I'm not here.
[25:53] Not only did he not do that,
but he never could do that,
[25:56] and no one will ever find
a non-existent entity.
[26:00] No one will ever
discover nothingness.
[26:02] They'll never get a Nobel Prize
for discovering nothingness.
[26:05] It can never be proven,
because it isn't there,
[26:08] and now I think that's
by definition nothing
[26:10] is not there.
[26:11] And therefore, it's a blind
faith belief, par excellence.
[26:16] There might be gods
that might be there.
[26:18] Maybe it wouldn't be quite
as absolute as people think,
[26:20] but there very well
might be some sort
[26:22] of angels and gods and
things, because at least
[26:24] that's something that you
might find or not find, so that
[26:27] can be proven or disproven.
[26:28] But nothing can never be
proven, because it isn't there.
[26:33] We know ahead of time.
[26:35] Anyway, I'm sorry.
[26:35] I know that's a digression.
[26:37] So everyone has that feeling,
the unenlightened person,
[26:43] and then people also
rag on the Buddha,
[26:46] because they say
he was a pessimist,
[26:48] and he was a depressoid, and
he was a killjoy, because he
[26:52] said it's all suffering.
[26:53] But he never said
it's all suffering.
[26:54] He said unenlightened
life is suffering,
[26:56] is going to be frustrating.
[26:58] And it's not as
depressed as Socrates,
[27:01] who said the unexamined
life is not worth living.
[27:03] Buddha never said the
unenlightened life is not
[27:05] worth living.
[27:06] He just said it's going
to be frustrating.
[27:08] And then the second
Noble Truth is
[27:10] the cause of that, which
I already explained.
[27:12] It's the distorted
sense of self,
[27:15] the deepest cause--
then craving and hatred
[27:17] and these mental things
that arise from you thinking
[27:20] you're separate from others,
and therefore, you're
[27:22] against your enemies,
and you're attached
[27:25] to the ones you
want to incorporate
[27:28] in your group, et cetera.
[27:30] And so those are secondary to
the basic sense of absolutizing
[27:36] the sense of separate identity.
[27:38] And that's the
second Noble Truth.
[27:40] The third Noble Truth
is Buddha's good news,
[27:43] which is the prognosis
of the diagnosis,
[27:46] and the prognosis is that
if you knew what reality
[27:49] was, if you realized your
true nature of yourself, which
[27:54] you can do, and then
you will be blissful.
[27:57] You will be in complete bliss,
not necessarily after you
[28:01] die, and not
necessarily by dying,
[28:05] but even in life, you
can be in perfect bliss.
[28:08] You can live in a way
like you were living
[28:11] in a dream in a matrix,
but a lucid dream,
[28:15] where you live a
lucid life, and you
[28:18] know exactly what's
going on in that life,
[28:21] and therefore,
although you might
[28:22] seem to be suffering
to others, you actually
[28:24] don't really suffer.
[28:25] It's an amazing
claim, and he didn't
[28:28] expect people to believe it
actually when he said that.
[28:31] The Third Noble
Truth, he said, this
[28:32] is true for a noble person,
which he defined as someone
[28:35] who understands that.
[28:37] And he said it's
only imaginable,
[28:39] and it's even
difficult to imagine
[28:41] for an unenlightened person.
[28:42] So what you have to do
with this third Noble Truth
[28:44] is try to imagine it.
[28:46] Try to imagine some
kind of perfect life
[28:50] of being blissful at all times.
[28:52] Everyone's been
blissful here and there.
[28:54] I hope everybody at Google
has had a moment of bliss.
[28:57] I really do hope so.
[29:02] I'm not asking for a show of
hands, but I just hope so.
[29:06] So all they're saying is that
if you attain, if you understand
[29:10] reality, what Buddha's discovery
is, that when you fully
[29:14] understand reality, which
again, is a revolutionary claim
[29:17] that a human being can
completely understand reality
[29:20] themself and the world
itself fully and completely,
[29:24] and when they do, they realize
that that reality is bliss
[29:28] and that everything is made
of the energy of bliss.
[29:31] That is to say nirvana
of the Four Noble Truths,
[29:33] only the third is really real.
[29:36] You know the first,
second, and fourth
[29:37] are only relatively real, and
therefore, somewhat unreal.
[29:42] So then the fourth
Noble Truth, which
[29:44] is where I'm finally
going to get to ethics,
[29:46] the fourth Noble
Truth is the truth
[29:48] of the path to the realization
of the nature of reality,
[29:53] which he said was
nirvana, and I'm still
[29:55] hoping it is the case.
[29:57] After 50 years of pursuing
it, I've had hints,
[29:59] and I think it is more strongly
than I did when I started,
[30:03] but I don't claim to be
certain, because you have
[30:06] to be a Buddha to be certain.
[30:08] So anyway, that path is
an educational path, not
[30:12] a religious path,
because you realize
[30:15] that a person who diagnoses
reality in such a way
[30:18] that salvation or liberation,
whatever you want to call it,
[30:22] is accomplished not by
faith, but by understanding.
[30:27] That person is forced
to be an educator.
[30:30] They can't really
just be a preacher
[30:31] like, yeah, believe what I say.
[30:33] Believe this, believe
that, and then
[30:34] you'll be fine, because it
won't necessarily be fine.
[30:39] Belief is not
enough to transform
[30:41] your whole visceral instinctual
structure that it is distorted,
[30:46] and thereby brings
you into conflict
[30:48] with what you relate to, and
therefore, sooner or later
[30:53] inevitably, it therefore
makes you suffer.
[30:57] So then there's the
educational path.
[30:59] The educational path has
eight branches, components,
[31:02] and they have a certain order.
[31:04] And this is where I'm not
against the meditative craze,
[31:13] the meditational craze.
[31:14] I'm for it.
[31:15] But it's not enough by itself
from the Buddhist point
[31:20] of view.
[31:20] In traditional
Buddhist teaching,
[31:22] the meditation part comes after
one has clarified one's world
[31:28] view, as they put it, what
they call developing what--
[31:31] I got from Alan Wallace actually
this way of translating instead
[31:34] of right view-- he's the one-- I
don't know if he originated it,
[31:38] but he's the one I
first read somewhere.
[31:40] He calls it realistic world
view versus unrealistic,
[31:44] and I really like that.
[31:45] I've always used it
ever since myself.
[31:46] He was my student,
but I'm not too
[31:48] proud to have learned
from him, and we
[31:51] do learn from our students.
[31:52] And realistic world
view is really
[31:54] correct, because it leads to
really what Buddhism really
[31:57] is is realism, because
it's based on the discovery
[32:01] by someone that
reality is bliss.
[32:05] So ignorance can't be bliss.
[32:10] Well, even ignorance
is bliss on some very
[32:11] super non-dualistic way, but
ignorance of that reality
[32:15] causes suffering.
[32:16] And knowledge of that reality
then is knowledge of bliss,
[32:19] that bliss is what you are
and what everything is,
[32:22] and therefore conveys bliss.
[32:24] But you have to
re-educate yourself.
[32:26] You have to develop the
critical intelligence
[32:28] to get rid of all kinds
of half-witted ideas
[32:32] and get rid of them
and see through them
[32:35] through critical thinking.
[32:37] And then that's
rectifying your worldview
[32:40] and making it more realistic.
[32:42] And there, again,
it isn't that you
[32:45] have to believe there is
such a thing as Buddha,
[32:47] you have to believe in nirvana.
[32:49] You're not asked to do
that, because Buddha knows
[32:51] that we don't believe that.
[32:53] If someone comes up and
says it's all bliss,
[32:55] we're going to think,
what are they selling?
[32:56] Snake oil?
[32:58] What is that?
[32:59] I'm not in bliss today.
[33:02] And you know that bliss is
hardly legal in most societies,
[33:07] in fact.
[33:07] It's more or less illegal.
[33:10] So that's not what he wants.
[33:13] What he wants is to look
at what we do think.
[33:16] He's challenging us to shift
our sense that where we ascribe
[33:21] and invent, what we invest
reality in to challenge it,
[33:23] and that's what the
realistic world view is.
[33:25] Realistic world view is
acceptance of causation.
[33:29] That's what Buddha
is truly celebrated
[33:31] as [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH].
[33:36] That's Buddha is
the one who argued
[33:39] for the existence of
causation, so what
[33:42] are the causes of
things, and how do you
[33:44] interfere with the causes
of negative things?
[33:47] That's what the
Buddha's teaching
[33:49] was, which is not all religious
teaching if you think about it.
[33:52] But why is acceptance of
causation the beginning
[33:56] of the path of realism?
[33:58] Because that self, that
precious absolute self
[34:01] somewhere in there that
Descartes imagined was there,
[34:04] that less philosophical people
have imagined was there,
[34:08] and we visually imagine
about ourselves, that
[34:12] is some immune to causation.
[34:14] It's like that
point of awareness
[34:15] you have when you remember
what happened 10 years ago, 15
[34:19] years ago, and the way
you sort of remember
[34:21] is that you are thinking
to yourself like,
[34:24] you were the same point of
subjectivity then as now.
[34:28] There's like one thing
that doesn't change
[34:29] is our sort of point
of subjectivity, which,
[34:31] of course, is what Descartes was
looking for, which he actually
[34:34] failed to find if you remember
if you read Descartes.
[34:38] Then he just presumed that,
well, because I'm looking,
[34:40] that's-- I'm sure of that.
[34:42] But he couldn't actually
find himself, actually.
[34:44] He was like a Buddhist
Yogi in that sense.
[34:47] So the point is if you
accept causality, then even
[34:51] your identity is a construct.
[34:54] It comes from your education,
from your language,
[34:56] from your associations,
it changes all the time,
[34:59] and therefore, you're
a work in progress.
[35:01] You're a Google program.
[35:04] You can be improved.
[35:05] I think I read
something about Google.
[35:06] You're never satisfied
with the way things are.
[35:08] There's something of
your 10 points of Google.
[35:12] It's because if people
think about it in a new way,
[35:14] they'll find a
way to improve it.
[35:16] But that's just the same
as yourself is like that.
[35:19] If you really realize viscerally
that you're a relative self,
[35:22] you would be very careful
what you associate
[35:24] with, what you subject yourself
to, your consciousness,
[35:27] and you would want to turn
it into positive things,
[35:30] and you would want to
develop it artistically.
[35:32] You'd become a work of art
in a way, your identity
[35:35] and your self.
[35:35] It constantly changes.
[35:36] It's not actually [INAUDIBLE],
which means sameness,
[35:40] because it always changes.
[35:41] But therefore, it can
change for the far better
[35:43] is the key thing.
[35:44] So once you realize that you
are this relational thing,
[35:48] inextricably interwoven with all
other relational things, beings
[35:52] and things, then you
get realistic motivation
[35:55] of what to do with your
life, this precious thing
[35:57] that you have of being such an
intelligent, self-reflective
[36:01] self-creative or
self-destructive being,
[36:03] and you don't want to
be self-destructive.
[36:05] You want to be self-created, and
particularly because you don't
[36:08] indulge in irrational
things that just
[36:10] by dying you escape from
every causal consequence,
[36:14] because you accept causality.
[36:16] Therefore, there's no first
cause or uncaused cause.
[36:18] Universe is beginningless.
[36:20] There's no final
destruction of everything.
[36:22] There will always be more
for effects and more effects.
[36:25] Therefore, everything you
do now physically, verbally,
[36:30] and mentally will
have an effect,
[36:32] and that effect is
potentially infinite.
[36:35] The consequences are infinite,
which puts tremendous weight
[36:39] on what you do, because
you a little bit better
[36:43] and a little bit
worse can magnify over
[36:46] an infinite canvas to
limitless proportions,
[36:50] negative or positive.
[36:52] So then third branch of the
Eightfold Path-- now finally,
[36:56] we reach ethics.
[36:58] Third is realistic speech,
realistic evolutionary action,
[37:04] as I translate karma, and
realistic livelihood--
[37:07] those next three.
[37:09] They are ethics.
[37:10] Now in their ethics one,
here I have my slide.
[37:13] There is this marvelous
thing, which is called
[37:16] [NON-ENGLISH SPEECH].
[37:19] The tenfold skillful
and unskillful
[37:24] evolutionary action
path, which is karma.
[37:28] And I call it
evolutionary on purpose.
[37:31] Some of my translating colleague
friends get all nervous.
[37:35] Oh, no.
[37:36] That's the Darwin's word.
[37:37] You can't use that.
[37:38] But that's just silly.
[37:40] Darwin is just a British
gentleman in the 19th century,
[37:43] and he noticed that he had
some monkey-like qualities,
[37:48] and the Galapagos
turtles-- I don't know what
[37:50] all-- the Beagle.
[37:51] The Beagle was the boat, right?
[37:52] Not the dog.
[37:53] Whatever.
[37:54] He did that, and he
noticed this relationship,
[37:57] which was a big shock to
the other white male bearded
[38:01] British gentlemen that they
might be related to something,
[38:05] some fuzzy wuzzies,
some people they
[38:08] were busy genociding
all over the planet
[38:10] with their colonialism.
[38:11] And Buddha recognized
that way back, Buddhists.
[38:15] Buddhists were like,
not only are we related
[38:17] to a bunch of chimpanzees and
dogs and cats and whatever,
[38:20] we've all personally been
chimpanzees and dogs and cats,
[38:23] so of course we're related.
[38:25] And if we're not careful,
we'll return to that,
[38:28] which would not be desirable.
[38:30] You wouldn't really be able to
do a Google search very well
[38:34] with a paw and a claw.
[38:38] We couldn't read.
[38:39] So what I love is this
word kushala in Sanskrit.
[38:44] Kushala-- people
always translate it
[38:46] as virtuous and
non-virtuous, because they
[38:48] want to get into moralism.
[38:50] But actually the
word is skillful,
[38:52] and why is it skillful?
[38:54] Why is it skillful
to save lives and not
[38:56] to kill and to take lives?
[38:58] Why?
[38:59] Because what did you have
to realize what the goal is?
[39:02] Buddha's definition-- when
you understand reality,
[39:07] in order to understand,
reality is infinite, right?
[39:09] You have to become infinite to
understand an infinite thing.
[39:13] Now everyone here,
not only have they
[39:16] had their moment of bliss,
at least one or two,
[39:20] but they've had
long time of bliss,
[39:22] and they've been in love.
[39:24] Everybody in here has
been in love, I'm sure.
[39:27] Some may still be-- oh,
there they are, 19 years.
[39:30] They're in love still.
[39:33] And when you're in love, you
identify with the other person,
[39:37] and you consider their feeling
as important or more important
[39:41] if it's really good.
[39:42] When love really
lasts, each one.
[39:44] That's why other people get
jealous of people in love,
[39:47] because they're so
deluded the two of them.
[39:49] Because each one thinks
the other one is so great,
[39:52] and nobody else thinks
anybody's great.
[39:55] And so here are these two
people confirming each other.
[39:57] Oh, you're the greatest.
[39:59] Romeo and Juliet, they
kill them off, whatever.
[40:02] They do their best.
[40:04] But the point is we know
in a parent and a child,
[40:08] especially mother,
but father can also
[40:10] identify completely with
the life of the child
[40:12] and sort of feel it.
[40:13] And the good mother knows when
that child needs to be burped,
[40:17] when it needs food, whatever
it is, it can sense it.
[40:20] She senses it, because she
empathizes with that child.
[40:23] So a human being has
this-- but the guys,
[40:26] they empathize with their
teammate on the football team
[40:29] or their platoon in
the army, a buddy.
[40:33] And so we have this
ability to expand
[40:36] our sense of identification.
[40:37] Human beings do.
[40:39] So Buddhahood is simply where
that sense of identification
[40:42] has infinitely expanded,
where her being is completely
[40:47] filled with every life is
their life, the same as them.
[40:51] And they identify
with all of it,
[40:53] and they have the
bliss energy to be
[40:57] able to even feel the
sufferings of the others
[41:00] without being dragged into
them, but be well enough to be
[41:04] able to interact
with them, to try
[41:05] to help them suffer less, which
is what the Buddha's job is
[41:08] like a doctor.
[41:09] So if that's your goal, if you
imagine there is such a state,
[41:14] even though it might take a
million lifetimes to achieve,
[41:18] but since you feel that you are
a continuity of such lifetimes
[41:21] anyway, so you might as well.
[41:25] How many of you have
heard of a Bodhisattva?
[41:28] A lot of you.
[41:28] OK, good.
[41:30] So one time His Holiness
asked me to give an evening
[41:34] talk before a bunch of people,
big 500, 800, 1,000 people
[41:38] were going to take a
Bodhisattva vow, where
[41:40] you say I want to
help all beings become
[41:43] free of suffering.
[41:44] I want to save all
beings from suffering.
[41:46] It's like [INAUDIBLE] like that.
[41:48] So I did the night before, but
then my main point of my talk
[41:52] was to urge people not to
take that vow too lightly,
[41:58] because unless you
think that you have
[42:00] a common sense of
reality that you
[42:04] are going to have this
infinite continuum of future,
[42:07] or rather that's your best
bet-- you don't really know,
[42:10] but everything else in
nature has a continuity.
[42:14] So there's the law
of thermodynamics.
[42:16] So why is your consciousness
the one piece of energy
[42:18] that won't have a continuity?
[42:20] So the best bet is that
there will be a continuity,
[42:23] and as long as you don't have
that as a common sense feeling,
[42:27] then it's silly to say, I'm
going to save all beings from
[42:29] suffering, because you can't.
[42:31] There's no time.
[42:32] Only if you and the
beings are going
[42:34] to be carrying on forever.
[42:35] Now imagine the opposite.
[42:37] Imagine where you had
a common sense feeling
[42:40] that you're never going to get
out of everybody else's face,
[42:44] and they're not going
to get out of your face.
[42:47] Instead of leaving here when
this talk is over and came back
[42:50] to whatever, I'm going to
be in your face forever.
[42:54] Next life we'll be
back in a lecture hall.
[42:56] You'll be giving the
lecture that time.
[42:57] I'll be listening.
[42:58] This will go on endlessly.
[43:00] It's like "Groundhog Day,"
that brilliant Bodhisattva
[43:03] movie of Bill Murray,
who is one of my gurus.
[43:07] And until you get it right,
you keep repeating it.
[43:13] So you might as well
take a Bodhisattva vow.
[43:15] Why?
[43:15] If you're going to be tangled
up with all beings forever,
[43:19] then you better optimize
your tangling up with him.
[43:23] And what's the optimal way to
be tangled up with someone?
[43:26] You love them,
and they love you.
[43:28] You love them.
[43:30] You can't force
them to love you,
[43:31] so you try to be
as loving as you
[43:33] can yourself by becoming
a Buddha, love meaning
[43:36] wanting them to be happy.
[43:38] And then when they really get
happy, they will love you.
[43:41] So then that's the best way.
[43:43] Buddhahood, they
have these pure lands
[43:46] that they describe
where you become Buddha,
[43:48] and you help all the other
beings to become Buddha.
[43:50] And I always think of them
as John Belushi's Food Fight
[43:52] Universe.
[43:54] Why?
[43:55] When I have a cookie,
I want my cookie.
[43:59] Well, maybe I'll share it
with you if you want a cookie.
[44:02] And that's how we are
in the ordinary world.
[44:05] But in a Buddha land,
well, if I have cookies,
[44:08] I want you to have the cookie.
[44:10] But then you want me
to have your cookie,
[44:12] so we end up throwing all
the cookies at each other.
[44:15] And it's a much better
way when you are just
[44:17] trying to grab cookies for
yourself, as a friend of mine
[44:20] used to say, it's everybody's
out before himself.
[44:24] You have to fight over all these
people who want your cookie,
[44:27] but when everybody
loves everybody else,
[44:29] then you don't worry
about yourself.
[44:31] You're willing to
give everything away,
[44:33] but you get buried in cookies.
[44:36] So it's a much better way.
[44:38] So then take a Bodhisattva vow.
[44:41] Then I want to make
a world like that,
[44:42] where everybody loves everyone,
because these beings won't
[44:45] be happy.
[44:45] I won't make them happy
unless they love each other.
[44:48] So if that's the goal is
to be that kind of a being,
[44:52] when you save the life of
another being, in a way
[44:57] you're identifying
with their life.
[44:59] They become some tiny
bit one with you.
[45:03] They have those
things in cultures
[45:04] where if you save
a life, then you
[45:06] are responsible for
the person you save.
[45:08] The person they want to serve
you and help you, et cetera.
[45:10] They have like these codes
of warrior, things like that,
[45:14] and those are sort of
superficial forms of that.
[45:16] But the basic idea is the
same, whereas when you kill,
[45:20] you're saying, we're not in the
same universe of that being.
[45:23] Of course, in the Buddhist
view, when you kill,
[45:25] you haven't
destroyed that being.
[45:27] You've just taken
away their body,
[45:28] but you have said that
their interest is not mine.
[45:31] I don't identify with them.
[45:33] So you're making
yourself narrower
[45:35] as a being, whereas
when you save a life,
[45:38] you're expanding as a
being, because the life you
[45:40] saved you are connected to.
[45:42] It's a piece that you have
a relationship with that.
[45:45] Similarly, when you take others'
property, which is literally
[45:48] steal, means take what
is not given to you,
[45:51] then you're disregarding
other beings'
[45:53] sense of owning something.
[45:55] And you're their feeling
that they own that.
[45:57] It's nothing, and
therefore, it's
[46:00] like a kind of killing
them in your mind,
[46:02] whereas when you
give them a gift,
[46:03] and, oh, I'm expanding my
pleasure of this object
[46:07] by them enjoying it.
[46:09] And so you're, again,
incorporating them.
[46:12] And finally, sexuality
is really important,
[46:14] because that's
when the human form
[46:17] biologically does sort of
melt into the other, ideally.
[46:21] I mean not always, obviously,
but ideally, it's supposed to.
[46:25] And it's a time when
the boundary normally
[46:27] dissolves even without any
question of enlightenment,
[46:29] and beings kind
of merge together.
[46:31] So it's a very sacred
thing, actually.
[46:33] So when even that time
when the human sort of
[46:37] drops their identity
and allows themself
[46:39] to melt, if they keep the
control thing where they're
[46:44] doing it in some harmful and
abusive way to the object
[46:47] in treating another
being as an object,
[46:49] then that which is the deep
visceral lesson of expanding
[46:55] their sense of identification
through love is being abused,
[46:58] it becomes another way of
narrowing your existence
[47:01] rather than expanding it,
whereas loving sexuality is
[47:05] a way of acknowledging
and experiencing
[47:08] a merger with another
being and is, therefore,
[47:11] a very expanding of when
one becomes a larger
[47:14] being by doing that.
[47:15] And similarly, when you lie,
you create a false universe
[47:18] for the other person.
[47:19] You don't include
them in your universe.
[47:21] When you speak to slander
people to cause them to dislike
[47:25] each other, then you are
harming both of them,
[47:30] whereas when you reconcile
them and make them peaceful,
[47:32] then you're enjoying their being
harmonious with each other.
[47:35] When you use speech
violently and harshly
[47:38] just to injure someone's
feelings, emotions,
[47:41] whatever, then similarly,
it's like you're verbally
[47:44] killing them, or
speaking sweetly,
[47:46] you're inviting them
and embracing them.
[47:48] And finally, this is
a neat one I like.
[47:50] It's a little bit the equivalent
in the 10 commandments
[47:53] of blasphemy, but it's
more specific in the sense
[47:57] that speech is what gives
us a collective mind.
[48:01] When you speak and
someone listens,
[48:03] you share minds all
imperfectly, since everyone
[48:05] has a little different
meaning of words,
[48:07] and they don't
necessarily understand,
[48:08] and even the people who
speak don't necessarily
[48:11] know exactly what
they're saying.
[48:12] But if they're trying to speak
in a meaningful way, where
[48:16] the other person has some
benefit for opening their mind
[48:19] and listening, then they're
being helpful to that person,
[48:21] ideally, meaningful, and
meaningful especially
[48:24] tends to mean
something liberating,
[48:26] something that expands their
understanding so that they then
[48:29] can become bigger people and
understand their world better,
[48:33] whereas meaningless
is the kind of people
[48:34] who'd blab away not knowing
what they're talking about.
[48:37] And they're wasting
your mental space
[48:39] by blabbing at you a bunch
of meaningless drivel,
[48:43] and there are a few
people who do that
[48:45] on the media and everywhere.
[48:47] So speech is the same way.
[48:49] Then this is really the
mental, and these three
[48:56] are the like the three poisons--
greed, hatred, and delusion.
[49:00] They're very similar to that.
[49:02] Your unrealistic world view,
you get back to that here
[49:05] in the tenfold thing, and
then this is the anger poison,
[49:09] and this is the lust and desire
and greed poison attachment
[49:14] and so forth.
[49:16] And the opposites are generosity
and lovingness and realism.
[49:20] But what is powerful about it
is that those mental states are
[49:24] considered more powerful
even than the physical ones,
[49:27] because action only becomes
evolutionary in the sense of it
[49:31] has an impact on you when
it relates to the motivation
[49:36] that you do the action out of.
[49:38] So motivation is really
critically important,
[49:41] and this is then why in those
countries, in countries where
[49:44] Buddhism has had a long
sway, thousands of years
[49:47] of experience, centuries of
delivering educational service,
[49:52] whether or not someone is
Buddhist in those countries,
[49:55] there is a greater
tendency for people
[49:57] to search inside themselves,
because they realize
[50:05] that your life is
good or bad depending
[50:09] on how you react to
your situations, more
[50:13] than the situations.
[50:15] We all know when we've been
very happy in a very good mood
[50:19] in a difficult circumstance.
[50:21] We all know when we've been in
supposedly great circumstance,
[50:24] and yet for some reason, we're
having a tantrum or a fight,
[50:27] or we're very mentally unhappy,
and we're not enjoying it.
[50:31] And we've all had that
kind of experience,
[50:33] because the mind is
the predominant one.
[50:36] That's why in Indian science,
unlike Greek science,
[50:40] and unlike your early Chinese
science, in Indian science,
[50:43] the psychology and
philosophy science
[50:46] field was considered the king
and queen of the sciences.
[50:49] Not physics and not
biology or anything,
[50:52] but they were not unimportant,
and they had their own physics
[50:54] and things.
[50:55] But it was the
mind sciences that
[50:57] were considered most
important by far,
[50:59] because that's really what
controls the quality of life.
[51:03] And I always laugh.
[51:04] There's a great verse
in Shantideva's book,
[51:06] and he says-- but he's talking,
of course, about patience.
[51:09] It's in his chapter on
patience or tolerance,
[51:12] developing patience as
the antidote to anger.
[51:15] And he says, you have two
choices when you don't want
[51:18] to walk-- if you have to walk
barefoot, if you're barefoot,
[51:23] and you don't want
to walk around
[51:24] on sharp stones and twigs
and thorns and things
[51:28] as you walk around the
earth, you have two choices.
[51:32] Cover the Earth with leather,
or make yourself a parachute.
[51:37] Because I love that, because
to cover it with leather
[51:40] is like Western culture.
[51:41] It's like a big
softball or something.
[51:43] The planet has turned
into a softball.
[51:46] Then everyone can walk around
barefoot, and they're happy,
[51:49] but actually, at
the end of life,
[51:51] I have no food or
nothing, whereas you
[51:53] have a pair of sandals,
and then there,
[51:55] you can allow your
crops to grow, whatever.
[51:57] Things can be-- it's much
more practical, actually.
[52:01] And this relates
to my hope, which
[52:05] I have failed to achieve
in my teaching career,
[52:08] but I'm hoping someday that the
colonial era will be reviewed,
[52:14] and the West that conquered
the world will be seen
[52:19] as inferior for having done so.
[52:21] And Asia and the
indigenous people
[52:24] who didn't go out
and conquer the world
[52:26] will be seen as superior
for not having done so,
[52:29] just as if you have a bunch
of gentle people on your block
[52:33] who have lovely parties, who
play Monopoly and Scrabble
[52:38] and whatever, and
you google lots
[52:39] of interesting
things and nice time,
[52:41] and then some mafioso
bully comes on the block
[52:44] and demands-- starts a
protection racket on your block
[52:47] and beats a few
of you up, you're
[52:50] going to be afraid
of that person,
[52:51] and they might extract
some wealth from you,
[52:54] but you're not going to think
that's the superior person
[52:56] on your block.
[52:57] You're really not
going to think so,
[52:59] but now our history
is still taught
[53:01] like empire, sun never set.
[53:03] It was all so great.
[53:05] And we're in a way still
stuck in that attitude,
[53:07] and that's really too bad,
because that is a mistake,
[53:10] whereas the Asian
people, we wrongly
[53:12] don't know where-- we want to
reinvent the wheel of the mind
[53:15] sciences, for example,
instead of realizing
[53:18] that the search inside
yourself was well developed.
[53:22] So I'll say it again.
[53:24] It's [INAUDIBLE] path.
[53:25] Finally, I'm going
to stop now, almost.
[53:27] Then there's realistic
creativity or creative effort
[53:30] after these three ethical
things, and this tenfold path
[53:32] of skillful and
unskillful-- oh, yeah.
[53:34] And why is it called
skillful and unskillful?
[53:36] Quickly, because you know when
you lift weights or you train
[53:40] or you memorize something,
your memory improves.
[53:43] Your muscles improve.
[53:44] When you walk or your bike,
you feel more healthy.
[53:48] Someone doesn't
come and award you
[53:49] with improved muscles or
better memory or something
[53:52] because you did something.
[53:53] The doing of it shapes
and changes you,
[53:56] so similarly, an evolutionary
action or karmic action,
[53:59] if you kill, if you live by the
sword, you die by the sword.
[54:03] If you become a killer,
you end up living in armor.
[54:06] You carry around coats of armor.
[54:08] You become more invulnerable.
[54:10] You become more walled off and
paranoid about other people.
[54:13] So the act itself changes you.
[54:15] It evolves you or devolves
you, one or the other.
[54:19] And all of these
acts are like that.
[54:20] Therefore, this
is very key if you
[54:23] know anything about
modern ethical philosophy.
[54:26] Because of scientific
materialism
[54:28] crushing philosophy as a key
and live and important pursuit
[54:32] of human beings, replacing
it with measuring things
[54:36] in materialistic
science-- because of that,
[54:39] people think that ethics
is an arbitrary choice.
[54:43] People are ethical because
they don't want to be caught.
[54:46] They don't want
to be imprisoned.
[54:48] There's no sort of intrinsic
value of being ethical.
[54:52] There's no reason for it.
[54:54] Previously, in
theistic cultures,
[54:56] God told you so, so
he would punish you
[54:58] if you didn't, so that gave
it a reason to be ethical.
[55:01] Without bringing God back,
this path from ancient India,
[55:06] ancient time, which
spread all over Asia,
[55:08] and this path-- the reason
you want to be ethical
[55:12] and you have an element of
enlightened self interest
[55:14] is that these ethical
acts shape your being
[55:17] in a way that is better
for you, if you follow me.
[55:20] Not only are they nice to the
person whose life you save
[55:24] or who don't abuse sexually or
who you give things to rather
[55:27] than taking things
from them, but you
[55:29] yourself become a bigger being.
[55:31] You become an improved being.
[55:33] You have a higher
quality of life.
[55:34] You become happier.
[55:36] And therefore, there's
a biological reason
[55:38] to be ethical, which in a way,
is what His Holiness is doing
[55:42] in terms of
materialistic science
[55:44] without challenging that
irrational thinking of theirs
[55:47] about how they're not going
to have a future life,
[55:49] because he thinks that's
too much for many of them.
[55:51] And it probably is.
[55:53] And he's also not an American.
[55:55] He's not a stupid
American like me.
[55:59] So he's being polite.
[56:01] But I'm after those
kind of scientists
[56:03] who run around, because I
consider that if you think what
[56:07] you do will have no consequence
to yourself ultimately,
[56:11] however bad it
gets, you just die
[56:13] and you have permanent
anesthesia, permanent sodium
[56:16] Pentothal, permanent sleep.
[56:18] So therefore, in a way,
it doesn't ultimately
[56:20] matter whether you're
good or not good.
[56:23] It doesn't ultimately.
[56:24] Then an elite, a
planetary elite that
[56:28] has the levers of power
and authority and it's
[56:30] all of the societies on the
globe that believes that, acts
[56:34] like that-- apres moi,
le deluge, King Louis XVI
[56:38] said before his head was cut
off, but he didn't know it
[56:41] was going to be cut off.
[56:43] Then you're going to behave
recklessly and destructively,
[56:46] and you're not going
to shift the planet out
[56:48] of global warming, and you're
not going to prevent wars.
[56:52] And you're going to run around
dropping bombs and doing
[56:55] things, because you think worst
case, I'll just stop existing,
[56:59] whereas if worst case, you never
know quite how bad it can get.
[57:03] It can always get worse.
[57:06] You will become mindful
that any little thing that
[57:10] could be a little better
is of total importance.
[57:14] And that's what mindfulness is.
[57:15] Final thing,
Samadhiraja Sutra-- who
[57:18] understands cause and effect,
that person will understand
[57:21] emptiness and relativity,
who understands
[57:24] emptiness and
relativity, will be
[57:26] mindful of the
most minute details
[57:29] of the relativity around them.
[57:31] And they will be
extremely careful to make
[57:33] things better and not worse.
[57:35] Thank you very much.
[57:36] [APPLAUSE]
[57:44] Thank you.